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> Beatme seems to have multiple personalities using phoenix and Samuri
>and Beatme sharing the same computer. No soup for you! and you! and you!
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> #2
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> Colin Manson
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> That is interesting, how did phoenix manage to get hold of the login
>for Beatme?
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>I've now deleted the Beatme account.
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> #3
> 22 Hours Ago
> Bobinovich
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> I also notice that Phoenix is listed as an ex-Orger, yet when I
>checked the profile it was active 2 minutes ago!
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>I take it Samuri is their new name after their previous problems with
>Kingetter - it hasn't shown up on the AE detector tho'
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> #4
> 22 Hours Ago
> Colin Manson
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> As an Ex-Orger she can still login and read the messages, it just
>prevents her posting or PMing.
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>Samuri has shown up on the detector, see the first post above...
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>Someone must have passed her the Beatme login details from the Moderators
>section.
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> #5
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> golach
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> #6
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> OK Colin - I didn't realise an ex-orger could do that.
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>Ha ha on the AE - I meant in a separate AE detection and you know it!
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>The passing of Mod info. concerns me - some of what is written in this
>forum is done in the knowledge that it is out of the reach of other Orgers.
>I'm sure that steps will be taken to resolve the situation if at all
>possible.
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> #7
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> Colin Manson
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> Yeah I'm also concerned about this, I thought that it was pretty self
>explanatory that what was said here was to be kept amongst ourselves.
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>Some information is clearly unrestricted, letting someone know that an
>issue is being discussed etc.
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>Gleber2 has already hinted that he has inside informed source, it just
>makes me wonder how much is being said.
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>The giving Phoenix the login would be to let her see that effect that the
>Miserable User plugin, that is the only reason that I can think for giving
>her the login details. So we can safely assume that she has be told about
>the system, if that were to "get out" to the general public we'd be in
>trouble...
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> MadPict
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> Hmm, that someone would even pass on such detail (the Beatme login to
>test the Miserable User hack) knowing it is meant to make certain members
>access to the forum 'difficult' is concerning.
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>If the integrity of the hack is compromised then it becomes less useful -
>and can require some nifty explaining.
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> #9
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> Colin Manson
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> Yep it might be better just to remove it to be on the safe side, I'm
>going to remove Kingetter from the group for the moment.
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>I don't like that idea that this might become public and his account will
>be proof that the system is in use.
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> #10
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> sassylass
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> The mind boggles as to whys and wherefores....this is unsettling to
>say the least.
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> Jeid
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> Very strange. I logged onto the beatme account this afternoon. Is
>anyone friendly with Phoenix at all?
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> #12
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> DrSzin
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> Quote:
> Originally Posted by Colin Manson
> Gleber2 has already hinted that he has inside informed source, it just
>makes me wonder how much is being said.
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>Has he dropped hints on the forum? I looked at his recent posts last night
>but I couldn't find anything.
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>Bobinovich, I assume Phoenix isn't one of your customers?
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> #13
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> gleeber
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> As someone who has regular contact with gleber I have heard nothing of
>his inside information. He always discusses the org. It's a major part of
>his life. I know he was friendly with Phonex.
>To be honest I have not kept up with moderator stuff. Maybe now I will but
>in the meantime am I right in thinking that someone other than a mod has
>accessed this forum? If so apart from a clever bit of hacking how else
>could they have done it?
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> #14
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> Colin Manson
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> Gleber2 mentioned something a long time ago, around the time that the
>new mods were invited. Maybe he was just fishing, he said something about
>speaking with someone that had refused to be part of this new clique of
>mods.
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>I can't remember the exact context but it seemed to imply more than someone
>who'd turned down an invitation would know.
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>Hacking would be virtually impossible, maybe using a moderator's account at
>their house or a moderator passing the information to phoenix to show how
>kingetter was being treated, it's no secret that she didn't get on with him
>so I guess that someone maybe thought that she should know what had been
>done to him.
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> #15
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> changilass
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> I vaguely remember someone asking about the number of posts or the
>amount of time beatme had been a member as they seemed to be amongst the
>newly instated mods, but having done a search I can't find the post.
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>Posted by connie 4 weeks ago:
>So who's the moderator called Beatme, who comes on to moderate posts in the
>middle of the night when there's no-one else about?
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>I also seem to remember Unicorn posting something a while back about being
>invited to become a mod but turning it down.
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> #16
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> golach
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> Quote:
> Originally Posted by Colin Manson
> Gleber2 mentioned something a long time ago, around the time that the
>new mods were invited. Maybe he was just fishing, he said something about
>speaking with someone that had refused to be part of this new clique of
>mods.
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>I remember something in that vane also, I put G2 down as phishing at the
>time
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> #21
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> Bobinovich
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> Quote:
> Originally Posted by Bobinovich
> Drat it - I didn't get the opportunity to try it out - but by the sound
>of the above I should be glad.
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>OMG I just had a few minutes of what appeared to be Miserable User syndrome
>and I wondered if Colin had given me a try out.
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>If so then thanks & don't do it again! Very frustrating LOL!
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> #22
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> Colin Manson
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> Nothing to do with me, the Usergroup is empty now. Kingetter will be
>praising BT for fixing his connection no doubt.
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> #1
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> Colin Manson
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> Hi,
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>I've installed the plug in and added Beatme to the usergroup.
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>Username - Beatme Password beatme001
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>Try it out and see if you think it'll have the desired effect, I can
>increase or reduce the time delay, percentage change of - server busy/blank
>page/redirect to index etc.
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>I've reduced the levels from the initial settings because I couldn't get
>anywhere with them at the default levels pretty frustrating really... I
>just want it to feel like posting is a little bit of a hassle not a
>complete nightmare.
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> #2
> 1 Day Ago
> MadPict
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> Heheehehehe - I can envisage a few keyboards with teeth marks in them
>from frustration....
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>Haven't managed to get past the "server too busy" splashscreen yet!!!
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> #3
> 1 Day Ago
> Colin Manson
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> I'll reduced the limits a bit more
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> #4
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> golach
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> I logged on as beatme, and got in ok, the web is running slow here
>tho, got to read 4 infractions
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> #5
> 1 Day Ago
> Colin Manson
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> The current settings
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>Server Busy
>Percent chance the member will get a server busy message.
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>10%
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>Search Disabled
>Percent chance that all search facilities will be disabled for member.
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>50%
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>Re-Direct
>Percent chance member will be re-directed to another page.
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>10%
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>Re-direct Destination
>The page or url that members will be re-direct to by the above option.
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>10%
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>Blank Page
>Percent chance the member will simply get a blank page.
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>10%
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>Minimum Response Time
>The minimum time in seconds before the member gets a page response.
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>10 Seconds
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>Maximum Response Time
>The maximum time in seconds before the member gets a page response.
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>30 Seconds
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>Flood Time Multiplier
>The post flood limit, in seconds, is multiplied by this figure (so if set
>at the default of 10, the time limit between posts is increased by a factor
>of 10).
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>1 (It's set at 2 minutes already, multiplying it would be too obvious I
>think)
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> MadPict
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> I would up the 'blank page' % - the 'server busy' message is something
>no-one would have seen before but how often have you tried to log into a
>site only to get a blank page?
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> #7
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> Colin Manson
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> It seems to have a cumulative effect, with any of the levels increased
>it's hard to get anywhere and that isn't the effect that I'm after.
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>I could disable all of those and just leave the time delay and I'd probably
>be happy with the result.
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>I guess it depends on how miserable you want to make your user...
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>I don't often get blank pages on the websites that I visit, I guess that
>I'm just lucky, most of the times that it happens it'd doen to my p2p
>software eating all of my connection
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> MadPict
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> I guess that a blank page is something that many internet users are
>used to - failed connection, busy internet or site busy could all produce a
>'page failed to load' message and the target audience might just waddle off
>to do something else. Which is the point of the whole exercise after all
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>Now if only they had a "Stop posting drivel" plugin.....
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> Moira
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> S l o w e r t h a n t h e o l d I n t e r n e t c o n n e c t i o n
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>tried to send Colin a pm complaining & was told I was not logged in - I'm
>sure I ticked the "Remember Me" box
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>think it's working then!
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> #10
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> Colin Manson
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> I've increased the wait times so it's way slower now.
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>Also decreased the Server Busy to 2% but upped the blank page to 20%
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>I've just added Kingetter to the group so that should slow him down.
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> Moira
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> Colin - you are EVIL! I can lend you a broomstick if you want to fly
>round & scare everyone.
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>Are we taking bets on the next thread to appear as being - "Is anyone else
>having problems accessing the Org?"
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>Mmmm..... the service providers are going to be busy
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> #12
> 1 Day Ago
> sassylass
> i love .organza
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> whewwwwwwwwwwww that was frustrating! I'm very glad to be back in my
>own skin and I promise to be a good Sassylass for ever and ever. PLEASE
>don't ever put me on the Miserables List PLEASE!!!
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> squidge
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> Crikey that was frustrating - I dont ever want to be miserable again
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> Jeid
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> #15
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> Colin Manson
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> I've toned it down a little but it should still serve it's purpose.
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> #16
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> Bobinovich
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> Drat it - I didn't get the opportunity to try it out - but by the
>sound of the above I should be glad.
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>Is it possible to publish a list of Miserable Users
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> #17
> 19 Hours Ago
> golach
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> #18
> 19 Hours Ago
> Colin Manson
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> I think we'll do a poll to decide if a user should be added to the
>group, at the moment the only person in the group is Kingetter. (I felt
>everyone would agreed about that but if not feel free to say so )
>
>If someone wants to nominate a user then just post a poll with a yes or no
>and we'll go with the vote. I'd suggest >70% to be the limit for a positive
>outcome.
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>I don't see that many people being added really, obvious
>troublemakers/spammers could be added immediately pending the outcome of
>the poll.
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> #19
> 18 Hours Ago
> golach
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> #20
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> Bobinovich
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> Sounds good to me too.
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